Webinar Recording
Registration & Timing
Q: If our benefits are only private medical insurance, do we still need to register with HMRC?
A: No. Since private medical will be mandatory from 2027, there's no need to register separately.
Q: Do we need to register if we're just waiting until April 2027?
A: If it's Car, Van, or Medical, no action with HMRC is needed — just start payrolling the benefits when the time comes. For any other benefit type, registration is required when the window opens in November 2026.
Q: Can a Personal Accident Insurance payment be processed under "Expenses Payments Made on Behalf of the Employee" from April 2027, or does that follow in a later Phase 2 enhancement?
A: You can voluntarily payroll this now; it becomes mandatory from April 2028. Voluntary registration with HMRC is required, and that window opens in November 2026. If the payment relates more to private medical, process it under Private Medical instead. Otherwise, use "Payments Made on Behalf of Employee" rather than Expense Payments, since expenses of this kind relate more to entertainment, travel, and non-qualifying relocation costs.
Q: If we're currently using Fourth's Payrolling (managed) service, from what date do we administer ourselves?
A: If you're currently using the Payrolling service, you can continue using it from April 2027. Alternatively, from the moment your portal is rolled forward into the 2027/28 tax year, you can administer the module yourselves.
P11D & Tax Timing
Q: What happens with benefits for 2026? Are these completed via P11D, meaning the individual is taxed twice on their tax code?
A: If the company has payrolled the benefits during 2026, those benefits do not require a P11D. Any Class 1A NIC due on them is still reported via the P11D(b) (no P11D is issued to the employee or HMRC in that case). Where benefits were not payrolled in 2026, they follow the standard P11D route, and the tax code uplift point below applies.
Q: What does the employee need to do with HMRC if the benefit is already declared in their tax code?
A: Nothing. HMRC already has these benefits flagged in their systems. Once payrolling becomes mandatory (or a business registers to voluntarily payroll), HMRC will automatically remove the uplift previously applied for that benefit ahead of the change taking effect, to help prevent double taxation.
Q: If a PAYE scheme had a submission this year but won't next year, do we still need to submit a nil submission next year?
A: In respect of benefits, payrolled or not, no. If you had benefits last year and reported them as expected, but have none in the following year, there's nothing further to do — nothing needs to be reported.
Q: Will we still need to do P11Ds for the 2026 tax year in July 2027?
A: Yes, if those benefits were not payrolled. The deadline is specifically 6 July 2027. For the same year, where benefits were payrolled, there's no P11D requirement, but Class 1A NIC must still go via the P11D(b).
Q: If we are payrolling BIK from April 2027 for the 27/28 tax year, do we have to do a P11D(b) submission?
A: No. Any benefits payrolled in the 2027/28 tax year and beyond — whether mandatory (Car, Van, Medical) or voluntarily payrolled — have Class 1A NIC reported via the FPS each pay period, so there's no requirement for a P11D(b).
System Access, Setup & Demos
Q: Would the PBIK module read the employee's termination date from the HR module to determine the benefit end date?
A: Yes. When a termination date is added, a benefit end date is automatically applied. This also depends on the company's benefit retention setting: if a termination date is set but the benefit is configured to continue to the end of the tax year, the benefit is still considered taxable until it truly ends, so the full taxable amount is applied and the tax collected in the employee's final pay period.
Q: Is the HMRC benefit type already built into the module?
A: Yes, HMRC benefit types are already built into the new BIK module.
Q: Are benefits added automatically once an employee becomes eligible (e.g. PMI), and what about benefits like Critical Illness cover that renew annually?
A: Benefits are never added or renewed automatically, except when rolling into a new tax year (a benefit with no stop date carries over). A user must add a benefit when an employee is ready for it or needs a new one.
Q: When are we able to get the BIK module implemented so we can prepare (e.g. company car entries), and can information be pre-loaded for benefits starting in April 2027 but entered earlier, e.g. February?
A: Yes — given the right package is chosen, the module can be made available ahead of the tax year for preparation.
Q: When will access to the module be available to begin staff training, and are import templates available to start collating the required info?
A: The module can be made available in the new calendar year to prepare, though nothing will be payrolled until the portal is rolled into the 2027/28 tax year. If an advance look is wanted, this can be set up in a "Yesterday"/UAT portal in the meantime. Templates can be provided now if needed to prepare.
Q: When will the BIK portal be available on our own portal?
A: As early as now if required, but ultimately once the correct package is confirmed and there's confirmation to go ahead with payrolling benefits with us.
Q: Will this calculate correctly for lunar/4-weekly payroll (13 periods)?
A: Yes — weekly, fortnightly, four-weekly, and monthly are all supported. The annual benefit is divided by 52 (weekly), 26 (fortnightly), 13 (four-weekly), or 12 (monthly). Note that if an employee starts mid-year, or a benefit is added mid-year, the calculation uses the number of pay periods remaining rather than always dividing by the full 52, 26, 13, or 12.
Q: Will you be able to update employee benefit details via CSV upload?
A: Yes, for first loading a benefit. For benefits already in progress, updates are currently employee-by-employee. A "batch update" feature is being actively scoped.
Q: Is there a test system we can access?
A: There isn't a dedicated "test" version of the BIK module, but calculations run in real time, so payroll changes are visible immediately as a benefit is added. If the customer has a "Yesterday" or UAT portal, this can be set up there so it can be tested if they wish.
Q: Could you also process a trial for a Medical Insurance benefit?
A: Clarified as a request for a live demo of the Medical Insurance benefit specifically, since the demo given only covered company car.
Benefit Value Changes & Leavers
Q: Our private medical renews on 1 December each year, not aligned to the tax year, so increases aren't known at the start of the tax year. Do benefits have to be recorded as annual totals in line with the tax year?
A: The BIK Module is built in line with the payroll module and adheres to the tax year. Where a benefit changes mid-tax-year, the system accounts for that and adjusts the notional amount applied going forward, whether that means more or less. Covered in more detail here: WFM UK | Payroll UK: BIK Module – How Payrolling Benefits Works.
Q: What happens when the medical insurance total amount changes during the year, and is it pro-rated automatically if an employee leaves?
A: For mid-year value changes, the system adjusts the notional amount for the remaining periods (see above). For a leaver, the benefit end date is applied automatically based on the termination date, subject to the company's benefit retention setting.
Letters & Employee Communications
Q: Will Fourth provide communications for employees explaining the changes, including the "double taxation" perception (acknowledged as not technically double taxation)?
A: An example template can be supplied as part of implementation.
Q: Can the letter template sent to employees be amended by us?
A: Yes, this is done as part of implementation.
Q: We already sent the pre-tax-year notification with our first payroll this year. Should the same letter go out to new starters going forward?
A: There's no requirement to change the content for pre-tax-year comms. The letter simply needs to inform employees that benefits are now being payrolled and what that means, which the existing notification should already cover. Note this notification isn't only sent at the start of (or just before) a tax year — it also applies to new starters mid-year. The trigger is the first benefit being added to an employee's record: the letter is generated, scheduled, and sent from that point.
Fees & Support
Q: What is the fee for the managed service / self-managed module?
A: The fee is based on the number of eligible employees receiving a benefit; a business-specific quote is available from your Fourth Customer Success rep. To use the self-managed module, your business needs to be on the appropriate Payroll Service package.
Q: How do we find out who our Customer Success contact is for PBIK, and will there be communication about the self-managed/managed module options?
A: Follow up directly with your Customer Success rep, or flag your organization name so Fourth can connect you.
Q: What are Fourth's charges for managing this service?
A: Fees are based on the number of eligible employees receiving a benefit, with a business-specific quote available from your Fourth Customer Success rep.
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